Singapore River Regatta 2009

[PK]

unfortunately, PK, rules are rules are rules.

i agree that the scenario you have raised is very grey, because the team is already disadvantaged to have only 19 rowers. however i think you cannot slam another team for not showing sportsmanship by protesting based on a written rule.

i can understand where you are coming from. but it would make more sense if teams have backup plans available (reserves) to meet with such situations.

the proposition to make a max 12 male rowers rule is very interesting indeed because it will change the dynamics of what a mixed event really mean. honestly i still prefer the minimum 8 female rowers rule because it just makes more sense.

and in case you are wondering, i am NOT from the team who protested. =)

yes i understand what you're saying here. i do agree that rules are rules, and rules are there to be followed.

maybe its only me who feels this way; i will definitely protest if a team fields 13 guys and 7 ladies, but its just not in me to protest if i lose to a team with 12 guys 1 less lady.

and i do agree this is a pretty grey area. im sure some of you will remember what happened during Sava sprints recently, when the Philippines national womens team took part in the mixed open and blew away all opposition. No rules were broken, and I'm sure no one complained. they thoroughly deserved their win.

But to be fair, if the rules state the minimum number of female paddlers allowed, shouldn't there be a minimum number of male paddlers as well so as, quoted from you, to 'make more sense'?

[DeepStar6]

anyway, talking about sportsmanship.

i heard there was this particular incident in the mixed opens category, when a team who came in 1st during the heats and subsequently got DQ-ed because they had 1 less female rower and rowed with 19 rowers.

from what i know, one of the teams in that particular heats then went to protest, and got that team DQ-ed, so as to move up the placings and stand a chance to get to the semi-finals. 

i have to admit the DQ was perfectly justified because it was stated clearly in the rules and regulations that each mixed team must have a minimum of 8 female paddlers. but i don't see any sportsmanship in trying to get a team DQ-ed just because they couldn't fill up the boat. the female paddler could have fallen ill on race day and therefore couldn't take part. (i think this kind of cases should be reviewed, because a team with just the right number of paddlers will be affected if just one female paddlers falls ill during race day. should the team voluntary withdraw? a more sensible solution would be to have the rules changed to something like the maximum number of male paddlers allowed is 12) furthermore the team that got DQ-ed did not try to hide the fact that they didn't have 8 female paddlers by leaving one seat empty (how many of you really go and count the number of female rowers the 4 boats beside you have when u're rowing mix?).

furthermore, to protest and DQ the team just so your team could have a chance to go through to the semis, is really unsportsmanlike. honestly, whats the chances of your team progressing further when they can't even qualify on their own merit. unless the whole point for that team is just to row one more set to make their money's worth?

just my 2 cents worth. no hard feelings.

unfortunately, PK, rules are rules are rules.

i agree that the scenario you have raised is very grey, because the team is already disadvantaged to have only 19 rowers. however i think you cannot slam another team for not showing sportsmanship by protesting based on a written rule.

i can understand where you are coming from. but it would make more sense if teams have backup plans available (reserves) to meet with such situations.

the proposition to make a max 12 male rowers rule is very interesting indeed because it will change the dynamics of what a mixed event really mean. honestly i still prefer the minimum 8 female rowers rule because it just makes more sense.

and in case you are wondering, i am NOT from the team who protested. =)

Event 54, team was Mountbatten CSC

SDBA Entry Rules 1.1.3
20 crew ( Mixed )
Crew MUST contain a minimum of 8 female paddlers

if a team do not have a back up of reserve, who to blame??   

if its no harm to ask, which team protested?

[leet]

agree with long stretch. every team that pushed deserve a tap on their back and not mockery. talking about mockery, i was near a group of TP rowers, and heard them mocking other teams. not trying to raise an offence here, but i do hope they improve on their sense of sportsmanship.

Was somewhere near this bunch too and i heard them making insensitive comments.

Empty vessels make the loudest noises; So much trash talk and teasing and mocking of other teams/people. I mean, what do these bunch of arrogant rowers have to prove?

If they were so good, they would be rowing in the finals too instead of having so much time mocking at others. At the end of the day, sportsmanship and team work is what matters most in this sport, so people, have some sense of sportsmanship and courtesy before you shoot your mouth off at other teams.

Respect the hardwork and effort that other teams have put in. Good sportsmen/rowers are those who respect their opponents and those who remain humble.

LOl, tp, mocking other teams? they arent even close to having any "rights" to do so :l