New Urban Male

[whack it hard]

How come this team are allow to take part in inter-corporate event?
Most of the dragonboater knew that this group of ppl gather together as they have the same  hobby and not working for the company New urban male.

3) As from year 2006 all races organized by the Singapore Dragon Boat Association will adhere to the International Dragon Boat Federation (IBDF) "Rules of Racing" and these have been uploaded onto our website i.e. sdba.org.sg. All Team Managers must read through the IDBF "Disciplinary Code and the Rules of Racing" thoroughly to familiarize themselves with the race procedures and the 26th SRR 2008 Entry Rules to determine which category of events they can participate in and the number of teams they are allowed in each event.

How many NUM outlet are there in Singapore??  every week got 40 over paddlers turning up for sea training. Dont need to look after shop is it?

[DBter]

NUM is not the only one.

Fitness & Health International = Paya Lebar Kovan CSC
MG&G = Naga Merah

Everyone knows the paddlers are NOT FULL-TIME employees of the organisation they represent ("FULL-TIME employees" as required by the race rules). They're probably not good enuff to win in the Open or Inter-club category, so they compete in the Inter-corp & bully those REAL corporate teams. They're probably sore losers, kiasu & hungry for medals. Where's the spirit of sportsmanship? They have no shame.   

Year in, year out, corporate teams have complained to the organisers. But is SDBA doing anything about it? What about SAVA? A simple letter from 'HR' can always be 'cooked' up. Perhaps CPF contribution statement is the better evidence?

Anyway, I hope the organisers would do something about it, else more & more club teams would register themselves with the Registry of Societies, form some fictitious corporate team & flood the inter-corp category.

To these teams, I've something to say to u... "Pick someone your own size. Where's your spirit of sportsmanship?".   

[boatingkid]

fault on the organisers i would say.
Singapore's dragon boat scene is moving very slowly because of things like that.
it may seem like a small matter, but it's these small things that accumulate into big ones which makes everything screwed up.
everyone that's been in the dragon boat scene here knows how screwed up the events can be.
just look at the last race, 5-crew and 10km.
i don't think much effort has been put in for the event.
all the paddlers who went should know what i mean.
 
anyway, back to the topic.
be it SDBA or SAVA, i think any of those 2 should stick to the rules which they've set.
if you want to set a race as an INTER-CORPORATE one, then make sure these people that participate fall under that category.
same goes for inter-CSCs, POL-ITE, tertiary and opens.

[DBHunk]

yes i agree. if everyone follows the rule, there is a need to make sure every rower is genuine. my team (i shall not disclose the name) consists of a number of rowers not working for our bank too. But no choice, we do it because we love the sports, but we could not get enough rowers to compete.

At the same time, we all know that at this stage, many teams are doing the same. Even i know the official DB team also does the same.

Lets make it very fair for all guys. Until the day SDBA can find a way to get everyone follow the rule strictly. It is not fair to say that teams like us is not having good sportsmanship.

til then .. we are prepared for that day to come.

[hayatsulong]

Inter-corporate teams like HP,FHI,NUM,MGM and RBS are doing well in the event for the past few months or even years. Are they all employees of the company too???

 I guess it goes round and round and no solution if SDBA are not willing to solve the issue.
Lets hopethey will find a solution to this issue soon......

[kingkong]

hi hayatsulong, 
  not sure how familiar you are with the DB scene, FHI, NUM and Naga are notorious for fielding imports. In face I would say they did not import rowers, they import the whole team. I think it is quite disrepectful that you group HP and RBS in the same catergoy with these teams.

  fyi, HP, Exxon, SIA, are traditional strong teams in inter corp, RBS came out strong in recent month.
   
  i understand some company may not have enough employee to row, for love of the sport and want to participate, i believe most competitors are willing to "close" 1 eye if only 1-2 rowers are import just to make up the numbers.

  In my perosnal opinion, it is simply ridiculous to have a team close to 100% of the team made up of "imports" and these imports are not weak, they want to compete and win, then have the guts to do in open, why use such underhand method.

[hut hut hut!!]

hi hayatsulong, 
  not sure how familiar you are with the DB scene, FHI, NUM and Naga are notorious for fielding imports. In face I would say they did not import rowers, they import the whole team. I think it is quite disrepectful that you group HP and RBS in the same catergoy with these teams.

  fyi, HP, Exxon, SIA, are traditional strong teams in inter corp, RBS came out strong in recent month.
   
  i understand some company may not have enough employee to row, for love of the sport and want to participate, i believe most competitors are willing to "close" 1 eye if only 1-2 rowers are import just to make up the numbers.

  In my perosnal opinion, it is simply ridiculous to have a team close to 100% of the team made up of "imports" and these imports are not weak, they want to compete and win, then have the guts to do in open, why use such underhand method.

it also happen in the Opens.

last Dragon boat festival you see so many NJC boys and girls paddle for MOUNBATTEN when they are clearly not mountbatten members.

I think in future they should limit the number of paddlers represented a CSC to REGISTERED RESIDENTS based on IC address. That way it is really fairer.

Teams like MBT, PLK and KG are famous for such thing. I hope something can be done at the CSC grassroot level to prevent this thing from getting out of hand.


There are so many people abusing the system now. Making CSC and opens look like a big joke.

They should also limit the number of national athletes in each club. To power houses like Mountbatten is sometimes not so good for the sport. NTUC club is not winning races so no issue on the girls side at the moment, althought that is something that must be consider especially if we are sending our national team for SEA games if they can win locally it is hard to expect them to win overseas.

[hayatsulong]

Hi Kingkong

Well I am new to the sport, and I dun agree the point that you trying to put through. Importing rowers and importing the whole team is the same...What is the difference of caught Doping with maximum usage of  EPO and caught with minimum usage of EPO?

I will consider them to be cheaters...please do not use the phase "close one eye" here...I think u are disrespectful to all sportsman.

Bu I do agree on the point that teams with imports should compete in a field which is suitable to them and be fair to be given a chance for the corporate teams to win, since it is a corporate event..

Let's be clean in this esp.....



 

[sea-clown]

NUM is not the only one.

Fitness & Health International = Paya Lebar Kovan CSC
MG&G = Naga Merah

Everyone knows the paddlers are NOT FULL-TIME employees of the organisation they represent ("FULL-TIME employees" as required by the race rules). They have no shame.   

Anyway, I hope the organisers would do something about it, else more & more club teams would register themselves with the Registry of Societies, form some fictitious corporate team & flood the inter-corp category.

To these teams, I've something to say to u... "Pick someone your own size. Where's your spirit of sportsmanship?".   

I guess when Naga, NUM or FHI ever get to the podium to collect the medals, we should do our part.  NOT CLAPPING for them,  since they dont know what is  sportmanship, any of us willing to BOO them? 

Or when we see any member of such team walking by, we should give them the "  Are you sure you should be here " look   



Maybe someday we will start to see this teams taking part in the National Breast Cancer races

[sea-clown]

I will consider them to be cheaters...please do not use the phase "close one eye" here...I think u are disrespectful to all sportsman.

Bu I do agree on the point that teams with imports should compete in a field which is suitable to them and be fair to be given a chance for the corporate teams to win, since it is a corporate event..

Let's be clean in this esp.....

talk so much here... will it be hear by those people in SDBA or SSC??