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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2007, 10:55 »
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it seems that composite paddles are 'too light' to use effectively for teams doing long strokes during maintenance. I personally feel that the paddle's weight causes it to 'rock' left n right upon a long deep stroke. But they are sure useful during short strokes when charging. What do you guys think?


hmm...I would have thought that the socalled "rocking" of the blade in water is due to the inability to overcome the water resistance in a clean sweep...rather than the weight of the blade. Weight of the blade is more likely to affect the recovery phase - which just means that a lighter blade is more advantageous.

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2007, 09:58 »
i think i have to eat my words.  :o

a light composite paddle is simply more bouyant, doesnt splash and recovers easily without resistance.

on that note anyone got lobang for 2nd hand carbon paddles?  :razz:

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2007, 01:39 »
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Quote from: "merman"
it seems that composite paddles are 'too light' to use effectively for teams doing long strokes during maintenance. I personally feel that the paddle's weight causes it to 'rock' left n right upon a long deep stroke. But they are sure useful during short strokes when charging. What do you guys think?


hmm...I would have thought that the socalled "rocking" of the blade in water is due to the inability to overcome the water resistance in a clean sweep...rather than the weight of the blade. Weight of the blade is more likely to affect the recovery phase - which just means that a lighter blade is more advantageous.



The 'flutter' of the paddle is due to dynamic instability from votices formed behind the paddle blade and the inability of the user to address these forces.

To reduce the flutter, a paddle with a dihedral angle (eg a spine, like with the apex) is preferred.

You can read the patent for the rib to prevent paddle flutter here.
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6796862&id=6usQAAAAEBAJ&dq=6796862

It is more a fluid dynamics issue associated with poor paddle design with no RnD.

braca sport paddles arte by far the best IDBF paddles as they have incorporated R n D and have included a region behind the blade that covers up the region where the vortices would otherwise cause problems. their dragon paddles were developed using the RnD that was used for their C paddles. also, they are super stiff and amazingly light.

veyr, very popular in Macau.

Their local agent is Tropical Fibreglass, a canoe company.

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2007, 22:42 »
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i think i have to eat my words.  :o

a light composite paddle is simply more bouyant, doesnt splash and recovers easily without resistance.

on that note anyone got lobang for 2nd hand carbon paddles?  :razz:


I think the lightest carbon paddle is the trivium paddle which weighs about 340g. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2007, 15:33 »
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on that note anyone got lobang for 2nd hand carbon paddles?  :razz:


You might be able to get 2nd hand carbon paddles from Ann www.paddlezup.com.sg. Disclaimer: I have no commercial interest in this business.

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2007, 00:17 »
was talking to some guys and they were saying burnwater paddle... seems to have very good comments all round... anyone knows whether its cheaper to get it online or from some local distributor?
Where can I paddle? I just got out of Vault 13!

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2007, 00:25 »
i saw on the burnwater webpage that quoted the price at $190USD. With the usd now weaker, it would cost round SGD290 without transportation cost.

but i still stick by trivium, which is the lighter than burnwater's 430g.  :D

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2007, 16:02 »
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was talking to some guys and they were saying burnwater paddle... seems to have very good comments all round... anyone knows whether its cheaper to get it online or from some local distributor?


Online buying incurs freight charges but if you can order them in bulk, you might save some costs. Burnwater suffered a bit of manufacturing problems last year and could not supply enough to meet demands, often meeting datelines late. Make sure you get on top of things when buying from them. Still, one of the top-notch paddles.

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2007, 16:07 »
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i saw on the burnwater webpage that quoted the price at $190USD. With the usd now weaker, it would cost round SGD290 without transportation cost.

but i still stick by trivium, which is the lighter than burnwater's 430g.  :D


Perhaps you can update here where and how much you obtained your trivium to benefit the rest here. Thanks!

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2007, 20:54 »
i haven't get my Trivium.... that is why I am looking for people to let it go 2nd hand. Ref my WTB post in the paddle trading thread. I heard someone is selling new ones locally for 300 plus... I am hoping some retired paddler can sell me for 300 flat or lesser.