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Offline Nautilus

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2007, 00:05 »
you've got PM Gwee. :)
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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2007, 18:02 »
What is the actual ideal length of a paddle? (Other than pcgwee's comment about toe to heart level.) I heard the length of the paddle affects the paddler's technique quite abit. Does it has anything to do with the person's height? Anyone got any ideas?
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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2007, 23:49 »
I'll just make a few quick comments on choosing the length of your paddle. There are several factors involved in this decision. Height, position of the gripping arm on the shaft, sitting position in boat, distance from water level to boat, just to name a few. Before just try out several different lengths, if you can try your friends' or demo paddles, preferably in water instead of a 'dry run'. Whilst I know even my recommendation of 'toe-to-heart' (which incidentally is correlated with height) method is not fail-proof, there are very little guides written on this subject.

Here is one I came across:    http://members.shaw.ca/DragonNorth/paddlebasics.pdf
Additional note: local conditions are different to overseas condition. Read with a pinch of salt.

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2007, 23:59 »
We had a paddle trial of the wooden paddles in 2005, in which Typhoon8 came out slightly tops.

Some comments I recalled

- "Typhoon8 is most comfortable in terms of recovery among these 3 paddles - flipping is easy."

- "The polycarbonate piece at the blade of the Typhoon8 paddle was not designed to increase durability. Rather, it allows  more hardcore paddlers to sharpen the edge more so that it can slice into the water easily. Some NTU paddlers mentioned that it may get rough over time and affect paddle entry. For durabilty, I have not used it sufficiently to make a comment..."

- "The Grey Owl High Performance is relatively light. However, more weight rests on the blade, making recovery less comfortable."

- "Weight of paddle - The idea of a light weight paddle is so that the paddler exerts his/her strength in the water during paddle entry  rather than relying on the weight of the paddle only    -  I guess it makes paddler make the effort to have a meaningful paddle entry rather than follow through the motion. Of course, it will also affect amount of energy required during recovery  - think it becomes more obvious on long course races."

- "Carbon vs Wood - The difference between the materials besides price is the amount of flex in the material. The carbon paddle will offer very little flex/is very stiff while paddling, so the  force exerted by the paddler will be transmitted to the water rather than being lost in flexing the paddle.  I have read some forums discussing how the stiffness of the paaddle may be tough on the shoulders or joints. whilst some paddlers prefer the flex in the wood to get a feel of the water"

- "Competition paddles vs. SDBA paddles   - At the end of the day, the paddler is the engine and the paddle is just a tool. If you put Lance armstrong on a cheap bicycle, I think he will still whoop my ass even if i was riding his high tech bike..(I just watched the tour de france on cable..)...Having said that,  I think that badminton, tennis even soccer players have their own racquets/boots   and it makes sense for paddlers to have their own paddles."

I hope you might find some of these comments useful. Incidentally I am using a Grey Owl, only because the supplier only had them in stock at the time of purchase.

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2007, 12:08 »
Quote from: "pcgwee"
URL links to dragon boat paddle manufacturers:

Apex Composites - based in Canada, IDBF-approved
http://www.apexcomposites.com/



Kim Tuck Huat in SG seems to be carrying apex paddles, but they are darn expensive. Anyone knows any more about cheap and relatively good carbon paddles?
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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2007, 12:17 »
Quote from: "dboater"
Quote from: "pcgwee"
URL links to dragon boat paddle manufacturers:

Apex Composites - based in Canada, IDBF-approved
http://www.apexcomposites.com/



Kim Tuck Huat in SG seems to be carrying apex paddles, but they are darn expensive. Anyone knows any more about cheap and relatively good carbon paddles?



How much is KTH selling them?
Good carbon fibre material is never cheap.

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2007, 11:49 »
i dont know how much he sells them, but i saw a whole boat of apex composite paddles before. some poly team that i cannot identify...
bloody rich!  :evil:
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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2007, 21:43 »
Polys really got money to spend on their school teams...! wasn't that fortunate in my schooling days.... :cry:
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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2007, 13:45 »
it seems that composite paddles are 'too light' to use effectively for teams doing long strokes during maintenance. I personally feel that the paddle's weight causes it to 'rock' left n right upon a long deep stroke. But they are sure useful during short strokes when charging. What do you guys think?

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Re: Paddle talk
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2007, 09:07 »
do you think gripping the shafter tighter may help? i noticed i had the rocking problem as a beginner. the rocking diasppeared as i paddled more. probably a grip strength issue.
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