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Offline slacker

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Pa race on 2&3 june
« on: June 03, 2007, 10:02 »
is totally no pple ... not much team there ...

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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 01:40 »
It's a fun race wat. I believe teams participate to get them into competition mode for SDBF, happening on 30 June and 1st of July.

Btw, SCF is freaking fast. They even pulled NJC apart by one boat!
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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 23:30 »
it's either called canoeists, or kayakers...

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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 23:54 »
is totally no pple ... not much team there ...

I feel that the whole event was badly organised especially in the kayaking part. The guys shouldn't have included any kayaking races when they talked about following ICF rules but did not.

1. Starting command is different;

2. Inconsistent in the rulings. The first day, the panel judges never even blink an eye when boats did not keep to their lanes. On the second day, teams started to be disqualified when they cross lanes. I think it was very unfair to people who competed in the 1st;

3. I guess many teams out there will like to appeal against the results of some. However the panel of judges refused to even let the competitors view the captured video of their races. That led me to wonder if there was any video recordings to begin with. The funnier part was, there was one judge from SDBA that asked one school to fill up some protest forms and pay a sum of money, thinking that it would deter them from further appealing. But then a staff of PA clarified that there is no protest form or whatsoever when the school proceeded to do it.

4. Results of appeals always the same.
   Appeal party: " How is it?"
   Spokesman  : " I am sorry, the decision of the judges were unanimous"
   Appeal party: " Can I view the video recording of the race? I do not mind paying
                        to watch it."
   Spokesman  : " Sorry, we can't let you do it."

and then they tried to brush you off by giving some racing rules that you knew were just plain excuses. Hello, I am sure we knew simple and basic racing rules. Luckily they did not attempt to draw a diagram of how the boat crossed the lanes on a piece of paper. I got that when I protested against a dragon boat race decision in Malaysia.

5. Rush in timing. It was clearly stated that in the programme sheet the timing of each race. However, it was entirely different on the day itself. For example, for a race that will begin at 2.50 pm, the competitors were requested to report at 2 pm and were then told to report to the start line where they could wait up till 30 mins before the start of their race. Waiting under the hot sun while trying to maintain balance was not at all helpful. The athletes are not Supermen. They do not need the extra sunlight.

Why do we need a race schedule in the 1st place?

Can we have some quality races especially on the part on fair play? I do not think it is too much to ask for right?  A video camera capturing all the lanes and a video camera capturing the ending would have been sufficient.

Do not try to include so many events when they can't be handled well..Short changing athletes who train hard to pay and compete is a no go.


« Last Edit: June 05, 2007, 01:36 by washeater »

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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 01:06 »
hahas drawing how they cross the lanes... IVE EXPERIENCED THAT TOO!!!! damn classic.. u pay to watch some dumb asses' drawing... somemore the lines not even straight..!
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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2007, 01:48 »
Yes. I agree with all of u. The PA race SUCKS!

Poor organisation. Ridiculous fees (that's y poor turnout). Poor planning. Poor vision (too greedy and not focused).

PA knows this is the first time they organised this race, and yet they were so ambitious in adding as many events as they could.

SHOUTING AT US PARTICIPANTS when the our race is still not even up yet like what washeater said. I feel like taking my paddle and slap the officials ... who is the real CUSTOMERS? Can they respect their customers a little bit more? Makes us really pissed off with such lousy organisation. If you can't organise, don't organise.

Don't make a fool out of yourself.

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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2007, 15:51 »
my 1 cent's worth with regards to the PA race.

1)Yes, the fact that they accelerated the program was terrible. I understand that they have to keep races back to back to maximize time and also keep the event running however, the fact that the program had to be accelerated just displays insufficient consideration in planning.

2)Fire-breathing Officials; well i suppose because of the acceleration, they had to send people out with a megaphone calling for participants and events. I believe the acceleration caused alot confusion because half the time as i observed, when the officials are running down with the the megaphone; the participants are warming-up or having prep talk and are often caught by surprise, grabbing their gear and vests and scooting off. Something like "Eh? How come so fast". I personally heard a disgruntled official telling the announcer "announce the event, they dont report then DQ".

3)Starting Command; i was indeed surprised that they were using the "Are you ready" command for kayak races too. When the starting command was broadcast over the air, i couldnt help but look out at the 300m mark and low and behold; kayak race.

I would suppose, most of the priors and complications arise from the factor of program-acceleration.

big boo boo there PA.



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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 00:53 »

Yah man.. it was quite a thrashing.. over 300m they pulled a lead of more than 1 x 20 man boat over NJC, and they didn't look like they were charging at the end...

and NJC was 1/2 boat over the rest..

I think the SCF is really the force to be reckoned with this year.. Everyone was clearly outclassed by the canoers....


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The canoeist probably have better individual paddling techniques than the rest of the dragonboaters. Yes, most of you may argue that Dragonboat is a team sport and must be performed at team level only. Well, you're wrong. These guys proved to us that it's technique before fitness.



PS: I've got a shock of my life when i discovered that the SCF team was made up of Sec Sch Kids.
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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 01:20 »
seems like despite the advent of Water Venture to promote water sports at different water venues, PA still doesn't have the proper expertise, or at least, doesn't consult and acquire proper manpower and event management assistance, to organise a paddling sports race event.

It seems quite disappointing that like any new race event organisers out there, PA is only primarily concerned with revenue generating. They can have the alternatively fund the event by courting sponsors and spending more time in preparation and organisation. If PA does not have the expertise, then leave event organising to professionals.
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Re: Pa race on 2&3 june
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 17:58 »
woah... did know it was that bad ! What's PA's business anyway?